The group talked about the COVID-19 pandemic, the killing of George Floyd by a Minneapolis police officer, Black Lives Matter, resulting allyship and how it is an opportune moment for the sport of hockey.
"Now is a time of action," said Tyson. "It's about how do we get diverse smart minds to put forward tangible solutions. We can't just say it's pipeline issue or we tried to give out free ticket and they didn't show. ... If it's not hitting, find a new idea. Find a solution that moves the needle--and don't be afraid to measure it."
Mason followed up on Tyson's thoughts: "My film came out in 2015. I started working on it in 2011, 2012 ... I decided I was not waiting for someone else to do the story [about Blacks in hockey beginning this first-ever pro hockey league, The Colored Hockey League, that was founded by Black pastors in Nova Scotia in 1895]. I wanted to control the narrative. I grew up from hip hop era. We're all about, 'Don't talk about it, be about it.' There can be too much talk,talk ... at some popint we have stop and let's go forward."
Limes, who is a newer fan to hockey, was intently listened to by the filmmaker. "If you want to expose hockey to a different demographic, you want to make it hip and fun," said the Alaska Airlines Seattle-based pilot who served 26 years in the U.S. Air Force. "When I hear Kwame's voice, the tone, the intonation, the way you talk, I would be like, whoa, it would get my attention ... it can make the sport more inviting, more relatable. It's more of a culture shift than a demographic shift."
The entire conversation is worth a listen for all of us. The conversation ranges from "hockey songs" to the size of Toronto forward Wayne Simmonds' ankles to Bad Bunny to how Blacks might take some responsibility for how hockey is viewed, but it never diverges from a resonating conversation about inclusion and how hockey can indeed be for everyone.