Are Pens the new Oilers?
There have been plenty of comparisons of this year's Penguins and the start of the
Edmonton Oilers dynasty in 1984, when
Wayne Gretzky and
Mark Messier and Co. were swept in the Stanley Cup Final by the
New York Islanders in 1983 and then came back to beat those same Isles in five games the next year, starting a era in which the Oilers won five Cups in seven years.
What we know is this is the first time since 1984 that the same two teams have met in consecutive years. Back then, the Islanders were coming off four consecutive Cup wins. This year's Red Wings have won the Cup four times since 1997.
Coincidence? Not even close. The Penguins and Oilers are/were two young teams on the way up, both with a swagger, looking to learn how to win ... and dominate the NHL. And you could say that the last time a teen began as the dominant player in a major team sport occurred in 1979-80, when Gretzky was Crosby's age.
"They've won Cups and, you know, and we've yet to do that," Crosby said, not wanting to get into a debate about this year's Penguins and the Oilers. "We still have some things to prove. It's a nice compliment, but ..."
But how about the new kids on the block, Mess?
"I personally love the way Sid and Geno play. I think Crosby could play in any era. He'll take a hit to make a play. He's an honest throw-back player," Messier said. "He plays tough hockey. He plays very honest hockey. There are no frills about him. And Malkin, I love the way he uses his size. I think he's one of the most exciting players I've seen in a long time. I love his skill level. I love the amount of ice he covers. I love the way he forechecks. I just think he's a tremendous hockey player.
"That's a dynamic pair ... and you have to also mention the size, speed and skill of
Jordan Staal. No one has had that kind of strength down the middle in a long, long time, if ever."
-- Larry Wigge
DETROIT -- Malkin. Crosby and Staal.
The reward of struggling mightily for a few years was the right to pick
Evgeni Malkin with the second pick in the 2004 Entry Draft,
Sidney Crosby with the first pick one year later, followed by
Jordan Staal with the No. 2 pick in the 2006 draft.
That's like the ultimate hat trick for the
Pittsburgh Penguins.
And on Thursday night in Game 4 at Pittsburgh, the goals came fast and furious from Malkin, Staal and Crosby to help the Penguins power past the
Detroit Red Wings, 4-2, to even the Stanley Cup Final at two games apiece.
"I wouldn't want to be on the other side, that's for sure," Pittsburgh forward Max Talbot said when asked what it was like to see the big three going all at once. "They're three really powerful and strong centermen. They're big. They win battles, and they're three leaders out there. You look at them on the bench, it's line after line after line."
"When you have three centers like they have and they are contributing like they did tonight, that's a dimension that is difficult to beat," Red Wings captain
Nicklas Lidstrom said of Crosby, Malkin and Staal's production in Game 4.
Ironically, it was that 1983 matchup with the Islanders that convinced
Glen Sather to switch
Mark Messier from left wing to center to try to neutralize the strength that
Bryan Trottier used to overpower the Oilers.
"It was a learning experience for us," Messier recalled. "You could say, we had to lose before we could win."
Just like the Penguins this year.
This time around, thanks to the change from the defensive-minded
Michel Therrien to
Dan Bylsma and his puck-possession, force-the-opposition-to-play-our-game style of play, which was on
display at its finest against Detroit in Game 4.
"Finding strength down the middle is one of the things we all struggle to get," said
St. Louis Blues President
John Davidson. "Some teams struggle to find two centers much less three quality centers like the Penguins have."
"The Penguins can be envied for the centers they have," said
San Jose Sharks GM Doug Wilson, whose team, led by a threesome at center that included
Joe Thornton,
Patrick Marleau and
Joe Pavelski, posted the best record in the NHL this season.
Said Red Wings assistant coach
Brad McCrimmon, who played against the Oilers, sees the Wings on a regular basis and is getting a real glimpse of the Penguins these days, "We've proven that depth wins games and their depth has put them in a position to do some great things.
Sid: There's no comparison
Comparisons to
Wayne Gretzky?
Sidney Crosby won't bite. Even for a player who was dubbed “The Next One” before he was not yet old enough to get a driver's license.
"I don't put pressure on myself to be
Wayne Gretzky," Crosby says. "And I don't put pressure on myself to even try to get close to his numbers. Sometimes you hear a stat, and it's like, 'Wow, I'm in the same ballpark.' Outside of that, I've pretty much come to the realization his numbers can't be touched."
But others are making the comparisons.
"Crosby is very similar to Wayne," says Rangers GM
Glen Sather, who coached “The Great One” for nine seasons at the start of Gretzky's NHL career. "Same kind of vision. Crosby sees the ice as well as anybody. And I've seen Sid do amazing things, like Wayne. He's feisty, and that's what I like about him too. Wayne was feisty in his way, but not like this guy."
To prove that there will always be differing views, we asked
Mark Messier to give us his thoughts of a comparison.
"I think it's one of those things that it's nice to compare the past to the present and who reminds you of who and styles, but I can honestly say there will never be another one like Wayne as long as we live," Messier said. "No one comes close to having the creative mind that Gretz had and the ability to make it work in a split second like he did. Comparisons are not fair. There will never be anybody who plays the game like him."
-- Larry Wigge
"I was in some great battles with the Oilers when I played in Calgary," McCrimmon continued. "The Battle of Alberta was a name those games earned. I remember when the Oilers moved Mess to center. After that, it seemed like they came at you in waves on most nights. No one could stop them."
That 1-2-3 strength down the middle is what makes some believe the Penguins we are looking at today could become the Oilers of the 1980s, if they have learned their lessons well enough to overcome the defending champion Red Wings.
And that strength down the middle in Pittsburgh starts and changes on the fly with Crosby, Malkin and Staal -- centers, like all the greats, who want the puck in their hands to control the game, control the pace, move players around like chess pieces in their favor.
That strength down the middle sometimes becomes a Crosby-Malkin combination.
"It is fun playing with Geno, but I think it makes sense to split us up," Crosby said. "If we're separated, we're naturally going to be harder to defend."
And, throw in Staal, and that's a triple whammy on some nights. Staal's shorthanded goal in Game 4, for instance, could prove to be the defining moment in this series.
Penguins GM
Ray Shero recalls the 2006 draft and the options he had to choose
Jonathan Toews,
Nicklas Backstrom or
Phil Kessel. All centers. All great players.
"I wanted
Jordan Staal," Shero said. "Our staff wanted Jordan. It was basically a consensus. I wasn't picking him to trade him because we already had Sid and Geno. They say you build from a position of strength. That was the process there, still is."
While it's true you can't compare teams on star centers alone, not when the Oilers also had Hall of Famers
Jari Kurri,
Glenn Anderson,
Paul Coffey,
Kevin Lowe and
Grant Fuhr, there's one thing we can all agree on: Crosby, Malkin and Staal are truly the ultimate hat trick for the Penguins.